Grammy and Dove Award winning band Jars of Clay is named after the New International Version’s translation of 2 Corinthians 4:7 – “But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us”. They have been active since 1993.

Tonya sits down with Brandon to talk about the power of empathy, what it really means, how it deepens connection, and why it matters in everyday life.